But I'm A bit curious, like what's the backstory of Demandflow and what makes you different from all the other agencies?

Yeah, so appreciate you having me on.

Really, really love what you're doing.

The Demandflow backstory is very much just an evolution of me being a freelancer.

So when I was about 17, I was trying to figure out what do I want to do with my life? What career do I want? You're studying at college and you're thinking, OK, when I go to university, what do I want to do? For me, I never really found anything that I wanted to do besides run a business.

And my dad was an entrepreneur as well.

He ran a business and I had no idea exactly what I wanted to do.

on on the source or as as i said it has been a topic for many episodes but there are no clear things that anyone anyone can talk but i i like this topic still and i'm i'm kind of wanting to speculate a bit more do you do you like think that it will become a tool that agencies use at lab or will it be a tool for everybody from from like freelancers to like clients themselves like in-house teams and so