And how did you begin that sort of professional collaboration with reading his plays?

Well, there were no plays.

They had this thing at NYU where they would put a director in the directing program.

Because they also had

a program for choreographers.

And they put directors together with a choreographer.

And they create a project together.

And I wonder sort of in that spirit of living inside of someone, what it was like to then play Roy Cohn in Angels in America and sort of...