What was your favorite gardens in Europe that you visited?

Well, I've had several really nice ones, but one that was a great photo shoot was a man named Fernando Caruncho, and he recently passed away, even a month ago.

And he passed away fairly young, I think, but he was such a wonderful designer of landscapes, and we photographed Dana Gallagher once again.

She keeps showing up.

Dana Gallagher would take her 4x5, wooden 4x5 camera, which is... a land camera, kind of portable land camera.

And she takes these beautiful four by five images.

And even the Polaroids are gorgeous, you know.

Tell us how that came about.

We're getting a lot of texts asking about what are good plants for northern exposure.

Oh, that's a good one.

That's a really hard one, and, you know, I help our garden, um, co-op.

We have a co-op apartment in, in Jackson Heights, and it's a big old 1930s building, um, on one of those nice avenues, and we struggle.

We do all the gardening ourselves as a group in the building, and we really struggle with the north-facing aspect.

Um, I tend to go with shrubs.

They, you know, flowers in, in...

And so they have done that, but they have not eaten it.

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Exactly.

Yeah, that, that's exactly the way I feel.

I do feel like, you know, I, I used to do yoga more than I do now.

I hurt my back in yoga.

[laughs] Try, you know, they say don't be competitive, but I did try to bend too far.

And so, but it reminds me of yoga in that when you're in, doing yoga, what makes it a meditation even aside from Shavasana, the final pose, is that you're moving so much you're not able to think of anything else except for the actions of your body and your moving.

You, you kind of try to be conscious about that, yes?