I do have to ask, how in the world did somebody become a stunt guy?

Well, that's the question, right? Nobody there's no direct route for us.

Everybody's got some other way into the business.

I mean, I can say for me, it was there was always since childhood interested in interest in film and filmmaking and making Super 8 movies when I was a kid.

And, you know, but like even as a even as a youth, I went to filmmaking summer camp like all my other friends went to like regular summer camp and I went to filmmaking camp.

But I always envisioned myself, back then at least, a special effects guy or a behind the scenes guy.

If you looked at my bedroom library back then, it was all how they made Star Wars, how they made Raiders of the Lost Ark, how they made American Werewolf in London, all the special effects stuff.

This is the problem with sometimes I'll have guests on in an area that's so foreign yet so fascinating to me that I have so many questions about their craft that I forget to dive into their entrepreneurship part, which is kind of funny for an entrepreneurship podcast, but go on.

What is the biggest mistake you see pure jujitsu practitioners make when trying to close the distance under a combat Sambo rule set?

Well, I, I mean, it's the same mistake I see with, by the way, with sport grappling, too.

It's maybe just a little more obvious in combat Sambo 'cause you have striking.

But generally, and this is not just jujitsu guys, this is just generally people who train their ranges separately.

You know, like, they'll train, like, their Muay Thai, and then they'll train their jujitsu wrestling, then, you know, they'll, they'll do, like, little bits, and then...

I would say, like, one of the, one of my biggest pet peeves, like, so let's, let's, actually, let's dial it back.

The whole combative philosophy behind combat Sambo, and also sport Sambo, by the way, it's reflected in the rule set, is to, uh, get the person down and finish them as quick as possible.

... model, the teaching model, that American BJJ or wrestling rooms should adopt today?