Like, like do you guys ha- like do you have a version of that? Was that like, how did that come about? Like was that almost like a thing?

We wanted to, or the, the, I guess Ian and the directors wanted to bring back...

Because that moment, again, like even the way you were talking about the piano part, how it kind of feels like, that moment is being like we are finally free, right? But it took, for her to finally be free, it took her to be her authentic self, and then Jinwu was moved to be like, "No," like, I d- like, "I'm, I'm not who I've been my whole life, and I wanna..." Basically, like Rumi was running from something that she was, and Ji- Jinwu was existing as something that he truly regretted and was not, right? And so both of them had to come to a point where he was like, "Well, in order," you know, "in order for me to become who I'm supposed to be, I've got to give myself up for Rumi." And Rumi is like, "I just need to be my authentic self because the flaws are what makes, it's what makes people unique.

It's what makes you you." Like, and I think, um-

So my question for y'all is what is the best piece of advice that either you have or have been given, uh, who, for someone who wants to make it in music as a songwriter, producer, artist, whatever that is?

For me, I think m- the music or entertainment business is a, is a persistence game, and I think that if I told you, if I told you you were gonna have 10 noes before your next yes, how eager would you be to get those 10 noes out of the way? You know what I mean? And I think that everybody gets to hear yes, but it, but it takes persistence and it takes...

In, in that persistence, you learn so much that you get better.

And so I would encourage everyone to...

Did you just like pick it up? Did you like, were there, there weren't like, were there YouTube videos like at the time or not even?

Yeah, there was YouTube videos, but I never, like, I don't know.

I just, I loved it.

Like I was in love with it.

You know what I'm saying? It's like, it's like you love a girl and you want to spend all your time with her.

Like for me, yeah.

Work and, I mean, but, um, but no, it was just like, I was just obsessed.

cool at the time

I'm

talking so much.

I feel, like, insane right now.

But I think...

I think the biggest struggle for anybody making music, especially at the level we make it, is like killing your own agenda and your own ego in sessions and writing and all the things, right? And so, you know, we were...

invited to the movie to be pop writers and K-pop writers because we've had some success in that.

And so there were things that we would go back and forth on and be like, I don't know.

Were there things with it that, as you worked on that thing, knowing it's the climax... that it gave you a certain sense of pressure or there was something around it? Like, do we need to incorporate other things? Or was this another one where it was like, here's a couple notes, see what you can come up with, and then we'll give you 147 edits afterwards or what?