for some crazy reason.

That's just one that just shows how high, if they need that much, shows how high their cortisol is.

Because the thing, like, even if people say, I sleep, I sleep just fine.

Yeah, you may be asleep and unconscious, but if you don't have enough melatonin, your body's not doing those things I just talked about.

You're just unconscious.

Most people say, hey, I sleep through the night, but I'm always tired.

That's because you never actually heal that night.

Have they looked

Yeah.

If it's not a pressure propulsion pump, then what is it, right? So it actually functions more like a, a vortexing hydraulic ram.

So the- Hydraulic ram is a type of pump that's flow activated.

It needs to have flow into it in order for it to function properly.

I didn't know what a hydraulic ram was when I first heard that word.

I had to go look it up on YouTube, and there's good videos- [laughs] ... that show you what a, what a hydraulic ram is.

The heart is actually two hydraulic rams next to each other.

Hmm

It's bad

... and the LED screens and everything, we're exposed to way too much blue light, and that's also disrupting circadian rhythm and everything.

But because infrared is what stays the same, like, anytime the sun is up, the infr- the infrared light is, um, is about 40, 50% of the sunlight.

So because that stays the same, we're supposed to get a very good dose of that.

So then we create these technology things that help us get some infrared, and they're seen as therapeutic, and they are.

They're very therapeutic, but you could overdo it.

But chiropractors love their low-level light therapies and everything, you know, the little lasers, and that's, that's the red light, and they're great.

Mm-hmm.

So tell us a little bit about you.

Yeah, I mean, so people always ask, like, you know, what got you interested in this? And obviously there's the heart attack piece of it.

But even before that, well before that, I mean, I suffered from a lot of chronic conditions as a kid, everything from asthma to I used to break out in hives all over my body.

I had just chronic inflammation in general, terrible allergies and things.

And so my parents and I were kind of thrown into the medical world to try to manage, quote unquote, manage these conditions.

And it wasn't until college that I started realizing that I could change the way I live my life and have a direct impact on these conditions and got rid of most all of them just by changing lifestyle and things.

And that started in college, like when I majored in health and wellness and just kind of started living in a different lifestyle.

Were they prior to your heart attack?

Let's start with, for people that haven't gone background-- back yet, maybe just the update or the, a recap of your origin story, what got you interested in heart health, and then we'll go from there, Steve.

Sure.

Yeah.

Easy enough.

So yeah, just taking it all the way back, as a kid, I suffered with a lot of chronic conditions, ailments.

We called them inflammatory type conditions.

Everything from asthma to I used to break out in hives all over my body.

And I guess I'd love to hear your perspective on your recovery from this because of the way you went into the situation.

They

don't have anywhere to go.

Then there's the lumen, right? There's a tube.

So they just kind of stick around in the middle.

But yes, they kind of line up because positive and negative are kind of attracted to each other, right? So they kind of line up next to that negative space.

And then actually shown in Dr. Pollack's lab, you can stick an electrode into the negatively charged structure of water and and into the hydrogen area, and you can power a light bulb with it.

So we're talking about energy storage, right? It forms a kind of a structured water battery when this happens.

kinase, is that a supplement, like a nutritional supplement?

But I would love for you to walk us through kind of what happened that morning and that day and what that experience taught you about how conventional health markers miss a lot of things or conventional medicine in general.

Sure.

Yeah, I mean, you know, my entire adult life, because of the illnesses I had as a child, my entire adult life, I was I was focused on my health, or I was trying to do what I thought was best for my health, you know.

So, you know, from from college on, I was always eating a whole foods diet, various types, and exercising, I was always very athletic and played sports and everything.

And I like to be active.

And so I was doing that mainly.

And then I always tried to avoid toxins and manage my type 1 diabetes as best I could and all that stuff.

And let's break some of those concepts down a little bit and why it's important systemically, not just like within the circulatory system.

And I know from having read on this extensively that know they'll do they'll do a number of trials right but they won't publish all of them and when you do enough trials you're going to get at least some that support your hypothesis and can be published to support your drug and you just memory hole the other ones you never publish them and this publication bias is very very clear in the literature it's actually been very well studied and that's the real problem with trusting what's coming out in the medical journals yeah i think what people really have a hard time with is that Because

they don't see their doctor as evil.

Maybe they have a good relationship with their doctor even.

And they hear this big kind of evil conspiracy type sounding thing up there.

And they're like, but that's not the relationship I have with my doctor.

So that can't be true.

And I think that and they're right.

Not the real data that they're spiking before it gets to publication.

Mm-hmm

... we're wiring the brain that way, 'cause the brain's very plastic.

And if you wire those things in that, uh, in that way, now you can have a cognitive thought about a worry about pain or something like that, and it can engage the emotional centers, which engage the sensory centers, and now you're getting a pain signal-Back down to the body with no physical damage whatsoever.

So there's studies that show that the, um, the extent to which someone worries about an injury and the pain they're in dur- during an injury while it's healing dictates whether or not that pain can become chronic.

Because when you're worrying about it, you're engaging the prefrontal cortex, then you're in the emotional centers and the sensory centers, and you're wiring that system together, so then the tissue heals, like in your knee or something like that, um, but you've wired it this way, now the cognitive centers can literally turn on the pain signal with no physical damage happening whatsoever.

So chronic pain can happen in two different ways.

It can happen with a chronic sensory signal at first, or it can happen because you're cognitively turning it back on.

Mm

Mm-hmm.

And I did my own heart health healing routine, and over the next two years, I was able to, um, heal my heart as far as prevent heart failure, ejection fraction returned to normal, conductivity of the heart tissue returned to normal.

Uh, I also developed a 75 to 99% blockage of plaque in my leg because of the procedure they did to place the stent.

Um, and so I was able to...

They told me that that would be that way for the rest of my life, and I, you couldn't reverse that, especially as a type 1 diabetic.

And over two years, I reversed that completely without medications.

And I've gotten imaging of the coronary arteries in my heart.

Mm-hmm

Right.

And fortunately for me, we have, you know, technologies these days that can, like, intervene in that situationUh, and, and, uh, save lives.

So, you know, I have, I have questions.

I have so-- I've, I've looked into this so much, and I have questions about whether or not a blockage is what really causes, caused my heart attack.

Um, it could be that or a totally different mechanism that, that I've come across.

Um, and I, I'll never know, but the solution to preventing that from happening, you know, are the same things, which I'm sure we'll get into.

So anyways, I was pretty demoralized at that point, pretty shocked, uh, wondering what was going on.

First, though, will you just give a little quick understanding of what the Cleerly exam is and why it-- what I feel the best way to actually check your heart for the most complete and accurate detail?