I mean, you've given us a good idea, but continue on that for a moment because then I'll dig deep into some of the things that we're here to talk about relating to CIA.

Certainly.

So he, he obviously set an incredibly high bar for me, but he really, he really, he really gave me, gave me the, the, the goal, uh, and, and the will to, to become something and, and do, do things with my life and serve others in my life.

And so I, I have always taken that forward.

And then when I got into the agency, uh, I had the opportunity to both be mentored by another great mentor who I, who I can't mention, but who took me under his wing when I got into this strange, strange organization that you see in the movies, but really is nothing like it you see in the movies.

He took me under his wing and, and really helped me understand how to do my job.

And I, a- and I thought, you know, these are the kinds of things that we, we as human beings living on this planet need to help pay back and frankly pay forward.

Stephen, you're on.

I mean, you've given us a good idea, but continue on that for a moment because then I'll dig deep into some of the things that we're here to talk about relating to CIA.

Certainly.

So he, he obviously set an incredibly high bar for me, but he really, he really, he really gave me, gave me the, the, the goal, uh, and, and the will to, to become something and, and do, do things with my life and serve others in my life.

And so I, I have always taken that forward.

And then when I got into the agency, uh, I had the opportunity to both be mentored by another great mentor who I, who I can't mention, but who took me under his wing when I got into this strange, strange organization that you see in the movies, but really is nothing like it you see in the movies.

He took me under his wing and, and really helped me understand how to do my job.

And I, uh, and I thought, you know, these are the kinds of things that we, we as human beings living on this planet need to help pay back and frankly pay forward.

Stephen, you're on.

Please talk about that.

Uh, yeah.

Well, thank you for, thank you for bringing him up.

Uh, so Robert Horn, uh, was a professor, uh, of international relations, political science, when I was an undergraduate.

Uh, and sadly, like many undergraduates, I wasn't exactly sure what I wanted to do, uh, with, with my life.

Uh, and I, I had the good fortune of almost literally falling into one of his classes.

Uh, this was one of those teachers that you read about, you see in movies.

I mean, you've given us a good idea, but continue on that for a moment because then I'll dig deep into some of the things that we're here to talk about relating to CIA.

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I, I don't think we're there yet where it's gonna create a biological weapon, but I will tell you, you know, actually create the thing, but it is certainly doing its job in, in, in finding every single piece of information that is pointing to what are the weaknesses.

And, and it's not just biological weapon for humans.

I think we all immediately go to biological weapons for humans.

But look at the catastrophe.

I keep going back to the, to the biological element here.

the other agencies, um, in a useful way to be able to combat that? I mean, what's the reason we're not paying attention?