So, Stephen, I'm just curious, how did you get into that line of work, actually?

It's a bit of a long story Karen, you know my background is in education and I've worked as a primary school teacher for 15 years now and I was abroad teaching internationally, living the good life in many ways, living the wild life in many ways and I think as a result of that I was kind of struggling with my own personal identity and who I wanted to be and With that in mind, I was kind of a bit lost, to be honest, and looking for a purpose.

And obviously then when COVID hit, everyone was kind of really thrust into coming to terms with who they were and what they wanted to do about it.

And through that, while I was living abroad, I took on a course in life coaching, essentially.

I was kind of interested in seeing if I could help others and adults in particular in that way.

And the life coaching was done through positive psychology and it was kind of my first experience of it in early 2020.

And then from that, you know, I just got so interested in the subject and saw how my own sort of immersion in the topic was helping myself and I kind of saw an avenue for it to help other people as well.

yeah of course