Can you tell us about that?

Yeah.

So it's basically a book...

And showing people how to grow their own food on many different scales.

So I've grown, I've been growing in one way or another for nearly 40 years.

So whether that's, you know, a few pots of tomatoes to half an acre like I have here.

So it's how to grow your own food.

It's a backup plan.

So how do you legislate for that?

So recently I did a little reel for Instagram about the black fly on one of my broad beans and how delighted I was to see it.

And there are many reasons why I was delighted to see it.

only affecting one broad bean plant.

The rest of them were fine.

And I sat there looking at it for about, it actually made me stop.

I was really busy and it made me stop and look and just look at that whole bed of broad beans.

Yeah.

Th- that's my ideal." What advice would you give them?

Um, it takes a lot of time.

It's very time-consuming, and so I would think about how much time you have around all your other commitments.

Um, I'm fortunate in that this is also my work.

I'm a garden writer, so I do this to...

It, it's what I use in my books and my, um, articles that I write, so it's part of my work.

Whereas I think if you're going into it thinking, "I can do this on a Saturday afternoon," it's gonna...

Yeah