I'm curious, what should the next generation of supply chain leaders be learning about digital risk management today, do you think?

That's a good one.

So there's many parts to that digital risk management.

One is, what is the data that actually means something? You have large organizations that are like, oh, we have 75 terabytes of data.

It's all old data.

If it's from five years ago, it's sure archive it, but it's probably not super helpful because the world is changing so fast.

Anything that's older than 18 months probably doesn't have a ton of usefulness to it because people, organizations may not exist anymore.

If you could leave a board with one particular sort of golden rule, if you like, for securing their supply chain over the next few years, what would it be to ensure they actually remain resilient in this sort of world in which we're living today?