And do you see a change in these people who have the opportunity to come and spend time at Circus Center Melbourne as a, a, yeah, do you feel like you can see things shifting in them?

Yeah, definitely.

I feel like we've really cr- um, worked hard to create this community atmosphere where people feel included and welcome.

And something to note about the circus lifestyle, 'cause I was a circus performer myself, I still am, but when you're working professionally as a, as a circus artist and you have this kind of touring lifestyle, your friends and your colleagues and your, like, circus connections, you might only see them on a seasonal basis.

Like, you might run into the same people every Adelaide Fringe, and then you just see them at that time, and the rest of the year you don't see them.

Even if you live in the same city, you just, like, you might only see them at that time.

And what I've noticed is that with Circus Center Melbourne, we're now creating so much more opportunity for people to not only collaborate on their circus work, but just also connect as people, and that's been really beautiful to see, and people are coming out of their houses.

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