Let's start just unpacking and sort of see where we land.

I think you're right.

So it's really hard for me to look past what happened last year.

So from the kind of ignore, I guess it come to 20, right? So before Lucy DNF'd, her and Taylor, they were going at each other.

And I think...

it was probably to their detriment.

Um, you look at the people that race Kona best, uh, and in years gone by, like Leon Chevalier riding through the field and then running through the field because he wasn't racing anyone.

If

Today, we're going beyond the Instagram reels to break down the actual mechanics of that stroke.

[whooshing sound] I started swimming, I think I must've been three or four years old.

I joined my first swimming club when I was seven or eight years old, and started racing when I was 9 or 10 years old.

So for me, it's been a very, very long time staring at the black line at the bottom of the pool, but I've learned a huge amount, and it's definitely shaped me of who I am today.

I started to [laughs] think about my technique, honestly, probably only as an adult.

Like, I remember when I, I had a, I had, like, a 10-year period where I didn't swim.

So I stopped swimming when I was 19 and then started back up again...