But before we get into that, would you just like to briefly introduce yourself and, you know, give us a quick potted history of your own routes to publication? Because I know you've published seven books, and I was curious to find out whether you have used the same route to publication for all of them, or if you have experience of doing different things.

Well, thank you for having me today, Nicola.

Um, and I'm Steph Caswell.

I am, uh, an author who has done a bit of everything really, um, in terms of ways into publication.

So my first three books were self-published.

Um, I, at the time, was a teacher, and I wrote three books for teachers, uh, while I was still teaching.

And then after I'd written those three, I decided that I was gonna do a little bit of ghostwriting for a couple of, uh, sort of different routes, I suppose.

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