Where's the money in podcasting?

Yeah, that's a really funny question to ask me, because I am, uh, never thinking about money, which is a nightmare in podcasting.

I think that my real answer is just parasocial audience is the best, most dependable, you have the most control of it, uh, way to do it.

If you have...

So, like, to me, it's membership.

Like, if you, if you have, um, a big Patreon, you're making more money than, like, the biggest podcasts from ads and things like that.

Like, I've seen those numbers.

Yeah