Mm.

And they listed almost every single one since April.

Um, I will say a common theme though that I've been saying when I'm talking about this, is that it's a lot of people who either got a villain edit or don't necessarily have positive things to say about their experience with ABC.

So I think if I just interviewed people that had nothing but nice things to say, they wouldn't have a problem.

For example, Hannah Brown, which I did interview in that time period as well, she wasn't listed.

Uh, and she doesn't have anything bad to say about ABC.

She literally worked on Bachelor in Paradise, and I asked her about that in that interview.

Yeah

I too had my run-ins back in the day, so I get it.

So ever since I put out that episode, I realized that I just joined the club of a lot of other people who have been in the exact same situation.

I think for me, the major difference is I never signed anything.

I don't, I've never seen the contract.

I don't know what it even says.

So for me to get one, it just felt like they were trying ...

I have to be careful about what I say, 'cause I know they listen.

Sure.

Then you moved to Florida, right? You think you guys like change of scenery changed your life as well.

Yeah.

From Florida to

Colorado.

It was, um, we had so much going on in Florida and, um, I had known the kids were autistic since they were little, but it was so hard to get a diagnosis.

I kept taking them to doctors.

I'm like, they're walking on their tippy toes.

I

Next up we're joined by actress Stephanie Parker.

Parker.I think, again, just honoring people, finding ways of making them feel seen and heard and respected, um, and whatever that looks like, whatever core values that may look like, whether it's the producer getting with people ahead of time.

Um, I know they have so much on their plates, and so that's really hard.

But, um, just finding ways of, of really making everyone f- feel seen, um, I think that goes such a long way.

It, it just does.

I know that it does as an actor when, like, we get those little goodie bags.

It's so sweet and thoughtful and stuff like that.

Yeah

No, your, your, your video has been fine the whole time.

That's so weird.

Okay.

Sorry.

It's probably gonna happen again in, like, 10 minutes.

Um, so I pieced together, like, the timeline.

I put the actual clips.

What do you know about it?