Mm-hmm.

So, uh, she told him that, you know, uh, Stephan, that's my, my, my name, [laughs] would be interested in, uh, in joining and all that.

And then, you know, one thing after another, and he brought me in and all that.

Um, and then, uh, the Widow's Sons was a, was a natural fit for me.

Uh, I've been riding a form of motorcycle since I'm 10 years old, so, uh, I did see about Widow's Sons before becoming a Mason.

So for me, the goal, you know, was to You know, be, of course, a Freemason, and then join, uh, the Widow Sons, uh, motorcycle group.

So that was, uh, to me that was the, you know, like the two main objectives here is to put my passion on motorcycles with, uh, Freemasonry.

Nice.