[upbeat music] Okay, so what I'm putting together in my mind right now is the fact that while Steen comes off as this very humble Dane with a clear Kiwi accent when he's speaking English- Between traveling to the other side of the world in his early 20s, playing an unusual sport, there are no professional cricket teams in Denmark, and having had a career as a police detective, today's guest is anything but the usual suspect

Is that there are typically three things that people gauge upon.

When we're dealing with people, it's really important that we find out whether we are salespeople, whether we are leaders, um, and we're dealing with employees.

It doesn't really matter.

You can use it in your, uh, on your spouse and on your kids as well.

There are three things that people engage with.

One is your presence.

Hmm.