We always like to start off by just finding out a bit about people's early career, how they got started in veterinary orthopaedics, and then who your early influences were.

Well, I was first exposed to orthopedic side in a orthopedic externship that I took, actually, as a final year veterinary student.

There is a big orthopedic lab at the University of New South Wales run by a genius by the name of Bill Walsh.

And he had just recently started that lab, actually, and was looking for veterinary students to... to help out.

So I saw that post and I was his first ever student.

Did a lot of sheep anesthesia, actually.

but interacted with a lot of human orthopedic surgeons in fellowship training.

So, I mean, you obviously have been involved in lots of MIPO stuff and it's a subject which is always interesting to know to what extent it's something that you use in your daily practice and how relevant is it to your day-to-day work?