[laughs] Tell us about Democracy Test Kitchen and what it's all about, for people that may be unfamiliar with it.

Yeah.

Democracy Test Kitchen is a nonpartisan platform with, uh, really, we kind of set out to just, with one real kind of core mission, which is to make politics more intelligible.

So we just kind of felt that, um, you know, politics is [laughs] unfortunately in America just, it seems like a pretty complicated kind of, uh, aspect of, of modern life.

Uh, it's just, there's a lot of noise everywhere in the space.

You've got kind of spin from candidates, conspiracy theories.

Candidates have, you know, every ins- rational incentive, I think, probably to stay vague so they don't lose voters and alienate them.

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