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... you have to do this for a very long time, and you have to enjoy it.

It sounds like a chore, and I think if I...

If it's from a perspective of either you or me, where we were doing it, we are living the life and we're actually, we're, we're enjoying it.

Like, l- living a healthy life, like, there's no way I would enjoy a life more when I look at a lot of other people and it's like, "Oh, that unhealthier lifestyle that they are enjoying probably more than this healthy lifestyle, I wouldn't want that.

Like, I'm happy with what I'm doing right now." And that is really easy to say in hindsight, at l- at least for, for me, and it's like, I think what got me going was at 15 years old, I saw amazing, crazy YouTube videos of, of guys being able to control their body weight, doing calisthenics, doing...

be able to do one-arm pull-ups, and that intrigued me, and that's kind of what got me started.

And I know listeners are going, gonna wanna know, you probably get this question all the time, everybody wants to know what you eat, but in that, can you really define the types of carbs that you encourage people to eat?