Been in those situations before, things like that type shit.

Man, come on, bro.

I don't, I mean, the homie security cool.

That's cool.

That, that- I think, um- But whatever ...

I think the common denominator in a lot of these instances, um, with, where these, these young men has lost they life, and it's unfortunate, I think it's pride, bro.

And I feel like pride is one of the most dangerous thing that a man can possess, bro, 'cause pride'll get you hurt out here.

Yeah, facts.

The Rickster.

Yeah, so he was, um, he was saying something like, you know, he one of the b- he feel like he one of the best podcasters up here or whatever it, whatever, whatever.

It's like, all right, you could be that, but you know, we was, we was debating value.

So I told him, he said, "You and production don't allow the squares to get off the bench." And I had to remind him, I said, "Well, Doboy and Moose, they got they own show.

You b- you been here before all of them.

You don't have your own show." He's like, "Well, you know, I came on a Tuesday show a couple times.

I did this, I did this." I said, "But you don't have your own show." So with that being said, why you don't let the squares off the bench and why Ricky, a winner of the competition, th- th- this what he use as his accolades, a women, a winner, a winner of the competition, why he has not had his own show and why he's not off the bench?

Mm-hmm.

He was supposed to have been done that.

I don't know if he did it on Monday.

I don't think he gonna even, uh, really, really, uh, you know what I mean, come back like everybody expecting and, and try to really address it.

So, so, so on the other side, do you think, um, since everybody, um, proclaiming, um, this, this album with the, with three albums a big success, do you think it'd have been a...

Yeah.

I'm not saying, not to say that Drake isn't talented or anything like that.Or he couldn't have wrote songs, or he couldn't have bought any songs like this.

But had he not mentioned Kendrick, a- and, and, um, the, the obvious, the, the falling out of his friends and everybody taking sides and stuff, do you think it would've been as popular or as successful if he would've did what y'all, what y'all want Kendrick to do, just to leave it alone?

Yeah.

1000%.

Jalis, I'm sorry.

And, and one thing is that there's no such thing as a perfect victim when it comes to a sexual assault allegation, you know? So unfortunately, the reality of the fact that we all know that Jalise drinks a lot and does hard drugs as far as we know, and has been known, I think it's fair to say, to lie in the past and, you know, really kind of weaponize accusations, not sexual allegations or whatever.

But I mean, she's just been involved in so much drama, so much mixy shit, that it is hard for a lot of people to kind of take it at face value.

That being said, one of the craziest things I've ever seen on the podcast from an outsider perspective was for sure Jalise recounting this rape allegation, and Munchee basically saying, "Shut up, bitch" throughout.

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... right.

But my whole thing is about this, I think it's negligence in so, in so many ways, you know.

I mean, but, you know.

I'm, I'm just saying, um, yeah, I definitely agree with that.

But when I ...

I, I don't, I don't be knowing either the standard no more.

But what I'm saying is, like, when you have these dudes ...

Well, I'm not even gonna say prominent figures.

I'm gonna just say in life in general, like when somebody's ...

O'Block

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I felt that way.

Like, you didn't even have enough information to know.

I wanted to say, I wanted to say it in 40 seconds- I felt that ...

but I, I, I, I, I lasted five minutes.

So, so what pr- so what, so what made you feel this way? What did he do, and how did he, you know what I'm saying, act that made you feel this way? This is my personal opinion.

That's what I thought.

There's been a few ups and downs it feels like.

Like, you don't know nothing about what you're talking about.

It is.

And that all could be true.

My whole thing about it is what I was saying.

I didn't even make a reaction video because I really kind of didn't want to touch it.

But my whole thing about it is, to me and my personal opinion, this is my personal opinion.

I'm not playing with nobody.

I just want to see how everybody at this table with kids feel.

Yeah,

my whole thing, people would try to hide behind, um, Journalists and being a civilian and stuff like that in these days and age, I feel like that's playing a dangerous game because it's internet is what getting everybody convicted and indicted.

You see what's going on, why even play with it? If you want to go be the police, just go be the police.

But I just don't agree with none of that.

But I don't want no problems with nobody neither.

I don't want them type of problems.

I'm cool.

the names I said.

You know what

I'm saying? Most of us do, though.

Certain ones, but it's different, like I said.

It manifests different in everybody.

What's the biggest source of your trauma, childhood-wise? I grew up in foster care.

Oh, that'll do it.

yeah i was i was i was i was taking for my mom and my dad but fortunately my grandma which is my dad mom and it was fortunate to get her you know like in the 90s it was like it was me it was four of us it was four of us me and my three sisters so back then it was big for um for kids to be all placed in one home You know, back then, yeah.

Yeah, yeah,

even Chud the Builder is heaven sent.

My take on it, it was obvious to me, like I got it off the dribble.

I had the same, the same take as Ant because I thought he was saying like he doesn't matter good, bad, all these dudes is sent from the heavens.

what they decided to do with their life and their decisions that they made, that was on them.

That's what I got out of with Tate.

And I also do agree, like, for certain sayings, it's subjective because it's more than one meaning.

And who are we to say that he meant it this way and all that? And to be fair, I think he getting a lot of backlash because he said Donald, you know what I'm saying, and Epstein, you know what I'm saying, and Adolf.

First of

I'm

going to say this last thing about that is, too, is, like, to be fair, just like what F said, like, on the street aspect, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's totally different from, you know what I'm saying, media and our content creating or whatever that case is.

You might... you might be known on the streets, you know what I'm saying? Can't nobody take that away from you.

But at the end of the day, it's in this space.

Like, if don't nobody know you, they don't know me.

I'm not even saying that don't nobody know him, but to be fair, without that cipher, like that's more, you know what I'm saying? Me putting you on a cipher, that got you buzzing.

And this thing, that got you buzzing.

So, yeah,

What were your biggest takeaways from having, you know, an hour or so long conversation with her?

To be honest, it didn't confirm any of my suspicions.

it just let other people know that what I was saying, it was facts.

You know what I'm saying? Them type of allegations and stuff that, you know, that I was, I was running with on him.

You know, you don't, you don't put nobody, you don't put that on nobody unless you know it's for a fact.

You know what I'm saying? And for him to, you know, go on other people's platforms, don't want to talk about it or speak about it openly or get uncomfortable when it's been asked about or try to skip over to me.

That's, even more telling and a disturbing sign to me.

this is the scenario

Facts.

That is a fact.

But at the end of the day, it's just because, you know, we don't respect that from her.

But you know what I'm saying? The truth and the validity still remains.

You get what I'm saying? So like I said, man, you know, God don't like ugly, man.

You know, and everything you say or you do is eventually going to come to the light.

Now, if this is true, you know, me personally, my personal, I'm always speaking in I form.

of the day, everybody, man, no, you just can't be yelling at niggas talking about, you know what I'm

that

worse? Because he tried to set it in secrecy, bro.

Like, if he won't act you about that and all that, say it.

Be on that when you around DW, let him know that from my understanding, they came together.

From my understanding, that's his boy and all that.

To me personally, and that's what I be telling dudes, like, bro, a lot of people be having alternative motives.

People don't be as authentic if you think they is, bro.

told on a nigga from 60s in Oklahoma.