But tell us now, how does the guide role look different? 'Cause you are operating that, uh, in so many different ways for a lot of people, but in a different way.

I think really what stands out to me the most at this season in my life is that... 'Cause I, I've been the counselor, I've been the friend who's acting as a counselor/coach, and in those ti- in those moments in that time, doing that, and it's still, I still am very empathetic and can, and carry people's stories with me in a very intense way.

The difference is I don't begin to embody their story because I appreciate and give, have given voice to my own.

So I'm, I'm historically, even I'll share this part, this is a little more intimate, but when I was doing counseling before I had Sophia, my first daughter, it was really, really, really tough on me and something that my, my husband would say, "You bring it all home with you.

It's so heavy" Or I could have friends going through different things in their relationships, and it would start, I would start to see that kind of stuff happening.

Like, it's [laughs] I was like, "Is that...

Maybe that's happening to here, and I'm, I'm not really clear on that." And-

... uh, of love to help us remember whose we really are?