I'm, I'm curious whether there is any, any science being done on that as well.

Yeah, so most of the h- um, research on dark humor actually investigates people making fun of themselves.

Um, so as I mentioned, for example, cancer patients, um, and it's also received very differently.

So let's say if I make a joke about myself, I usually imply, look, I'm comfortable with joking about this topic, and I invite others then to joke back or to laugh along with me, yeah? And then maybe this negativity creates a, a positive pro-social situation.

It's quite different, um, so let's say you have someone in a, a wheelchair, and that person makes fun of themselves, and then about their disability, and then everyone laughs along.

Now imagine someone who can walk, and they make a joke about that person.

Depends on the relationship.

I mean, it must be pretty difficult to, to study because a lot of the history is lost and from, from the very early stages of our history we resort to, to ancient drawings and, and depictions, but is it known how far our desire to engage in humor goes, goes back?

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... style to use interpersonally, because it doesn't attack anybody else.

It doesn't have anybody else as a target, but it has myself as a target.

Um, one of the worst styles in terms of wellbeing or also interpersonal outcomes, um, is probably cynicism, um, because this is, has a, a bitter attitude underlying, and, um, it makes it- [baby laughs]

For somebody who spent, um, I know this is probably the one you get all the time, but for somebody who spent decades, um, uh, focused on humor, what's your best joke?

Asked that in interviews, but, um, my answer to that is that I'm more of a spontaneous humor maker, so I usually react more to the situation rather than rehearsing a joke.

Um, so I'll just tell a little anecdote in response to that.

One of my friends, who is one of my co-researchers on laughing at yourself, she was asked ...