And I was listening to you someplace else, and you do such a great job of trying to explain it in a way that it is a further entrapment, right? And so can you explain for our listeners what that is?

Yeah, I'll try to do it in a very basic and lay people way.

So of course we have the family court system that decides in terms of the child's best interest within countries.

But I think what people don't realize that when there are overlaps in between other countries, so either if you would like to move with the child from a country where they're established as belonging to, or when the parents are from different countries, you may face a similar legal dispute or disagreement in terms of where the child is supposed to live.

So if you would take a child from one country where they belong to another country, and either the country, the state, or the other parent log a hate convention proceeding, you will have... court hearing that will establish where the child is supposed to live and whether it's in the child's best interests to maintain with the person who's left the country to another country.

Most often, and I think the overlap for me that really goes back to the work that I've done is that it tends to be migrant mothers.

So what I see a lot and what I really have a deep understanding for, also as a migrant, I'm Swedish, but I've lived in a lot of countries, is this whole idea of coming as a mother to a country.

We need a sea of allies.