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Sonia Gollance

Sonia Gollance

Associate Professor of Yiddish Studies at University College London; scholar of German-Jewish literature, dance, and theater whose book "It Could Lead to Dancing" explores mixed-sex dancing and Jewish modernity.

Jul 10, 2026

Seymour RechzeitSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
19:20
Picture a vast
19:21
stateroom with women dressed as famous ancient queens and goddesses and our masked narrator having fun dancing with them.
19:31
Bernstein writes, My gaze fell upon an Aphrodite.
19:35
She nodded her head yes, and I took her for the dance.
19:40
We danced a melodious, passionate tango, which dramatized free love and eroticism.
19:47
Fragrant perfume wafted around us in harmony with the music and general elegance of the environs.
19:55
The orchestra began a waltz and we moved in new forms of musical expression.

41 MINS LATER

60:54
No, no.
18:22
See you guys.
18:23
What a great presentation and such lovely music.
18:25
Um, so thank you for the introduction, and it's, um, really great to be on a panel with, uh, with Ron and Josh.
18:33
So we'll start by, by continuing with this, this theme of tangos.
18:37
In 1948, a Polish-born American writer named Samuel Bershtyn wrote a short piece in Yiddish called Der Maskin Bal fun Fedorbenheit, or in English, The Masked Ball of Depravity.
18:53
Not surprisingly, given its title, this story describes the most decadent masquerade ball scene I've found in Yiddish literature.
19:02
And I say this as someone who has built a career on finding bonkers scenes of dance in literature.

42 MINS LATER

60:54
No, no.
Seymour RechzeitSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
19:20
Picture a vast
19:21
stateroom with women dressed as famous ancient queens and goddesses and our masked narrator having fun dancing with them.
19:31
Bernstein writes, My gaze fell upon an Aphrodite.
19:35
She nodded her head yes, and I took her for the dance.
19:40
We danced a melodious, passionate tango, which dramatized free love and eroticism.
19:47
Fragrant perfume wafted around us in harmony with the music and general elegance of the environs.
19:55
The orchestra began a waltz and we moved in new forms of musical expression.

41 MINS LATER

60:54
No, no.
Seymour RexiteSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
19:20
Picture a vast
19:21
stateroom with women dressed as famous ancient queens and goddesses and our masked narrator having fun dancing with them.
19:31
Bernstein writes, My gaze fell upon an Aphrodite.
19:35
She nodded her head yes, and I took her for the dance.
19:40
We danced a melodious, passionate tango, which dramatized free love and eroticism.
19:47
Fragrant perfume wafted around us in harmony with the music and general elegance of the environs.
19:55
The orchestra began a waltz and we moved in new forms of musical expression.

41 MINS LATER

60:54
No, no.
2:36
Like, like how, how did that start for you? Why did that become the focus of, of the work you do?
2:42
Well, thank you, and it's, it's really great to be having this conversation with you because as, as you mentioned, we've known each other for a while, and actually it's very fitting that we're speaking here at a, a YIVO Institute event because we actually met when we were both studying in the, the YIVO summer program, uh, years ago.
3:00
But, um, so I got started on this path because I wanted to learn Yiddish.
3:06
Um, I had just started high school, and I had, um, an older relative, the, uh, the, the younger brother of my great-grandfather, who had functionally been a great-grandfather for me, and he had been born in 1905 in, uh, what's now Belarus, and he told me I should learn Yiddish, which was the language that he grew up with.
3:26
Um, this was my Uncle Peter, and he's one of the two uncles that the book is dedicated to.
3:32
And so when I heard that, him say that I should learn Yiddish because it was a very expressive language, um, I was, I was already interested in, in genealogy and, um, you know, family history, and I thought, you know, I'm curious about learning all sorts of languages.
3:47
Um, why not add Yiddish to the list? And I just...

11 MINS LATER

14:34
Can, like, d- does, is, is there an example that comes to mind, like, earlier in the process, that sort of made you understand that you could do this as a book?
2:29
How you got on the track to being a scholar of Yiddish and German literature, cultural history, how did that start for you? Why did that become the focus of the work you do?
2:42
Well, thank you.
2:42
And it's really great to be having this conversation with you because, as you mentioned, we've known each other for a while.
2:49
And actually, it's very fitting that we're speaking here at a YIVO Institute event because we actually met when we were both studying in the YIVO summer program years ago.
3:00
But so I got started on this path because I wanted to learn Yiddish.
3:07
I had just started high school and I had an older relative, the younger brother of my great-grandfather who had functionally been a great-grandfather for me.
3:16
And he had been born in 1905 in what's now Belarus.

11 MINS LATER

14:34
Is there an example that comes to mind like earlier in the process that sort of made you understand that you could do this as a book?

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