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what ways did you feel cut out and boxed out i think the biggest misconception is that i walked away and the reality is i decided to stay and work the deal out but she didn't respond to me after however many years of friendship living together and that is how i felt boxed out alex cooper addressing

What was your side of things?

I don't think that that is accurate.

I don't think just because you know how to use Adobe Premiere that makes your you know, percentage of value incrementally much higher.

To say she did more work than me is just not accurate.

I know I was right next to her every hour working alongside her and we were equal in that way.

But yeah.

Hi, Sophia.

One more thing, and then I'll send over that form for you to sign.

I reviewed Alex's contract.

Remember, you guys told me you had the same agreement.

So I was just working off yours.

But what was the basis for her higher compensation? I feel like I've been told someone died.

what I mean? Yeah, I mean, it's really, this is, yeah.

And then your relationship with your dad was like what? If your mother raised you as a single mom until you were six, what was your relationship with him like then?

So my biological dad, like no relationship.

And then...

When I was in middle school, my mom sat me down with my therapist and they were like, you can meet him for the first time if you want.

And I said, sure.

Okay.

I mean, I guess I'm not going to say no. Yeah.

What happened?

Was

that what was happening? We were still negotiating and something shifted.

And this is the part where I was voicing and speaking up for myself and was now incredibly active in the negotiation.

And she was starting to see that she was losing 100% control.

I'm voicing my opinion.

I am 50% of this show in terms of it's two co-hosts that people look at every day.

Whether the value of each of us is 50-50, that's debatable.

do?

some

respect, you know? So my husband lives in Europe.

I was trying to get my Italian citizenship before I even met him.

It didn't work out.

And I need to get my citizenship.

And my mom was like, hi, your biological father.

So while he's Italian, he's from Spain.

And that was and what do you say to that, though?

were there in New York.

I that was as I'm sure everyone listening can assume my tolerance for toxic behavior is high, very high.

And it takes a lot for me to feel, you know, uncomfortable or take something seriously.

And at Morgan Stanley, I worked for a financial advisor, and he made my life a living hell going into work.

Harassment that knew no bounds all the time, every day, around the clock.

I can't get away from it.

putting his home address on my calendar.

So then when she says that, does she go into the studio and start releasing without you?

I was like,

I was about to respond laughing with a joke.

Like that is how my brain works at first makes me feel like worthless and kind of like, is this, I am, I'm like Ashley Simpson living in the shadow of someone else's dream, Jessica Simpson, sister style.

But like, I think my first thought is I will have to live the rest of my life haunted by this.

It pops up anywhere and everywhere.

And then my second thought is, if I'm being totally honest, is like, You and I'm talking about Alex Cooper are rich as fuck.

You have resources.

It's called derealization.

Were you surprised when their original collaboration on her podcast even happened at the beginning?

I was not surprised.

No, because what's funny is this is before Alex Earl blew up.

She was on TikTok and she was like, I want to go on a podcast.

I just don't know which one.

Mm-hmm.

and people were writing, and she said, Caller Daddy, love Caller Daddy, also love Sophia with an F.

Fearful at all to get into that territory of like putting it all out there

So we go down to the breakfast this morning.

And we're like, "No one has, like, touched any of the bagels." We're, like, putting cream cheese on the bagels.

But what type...

type...You're edging while you're-