How did, how did you endure th- how did you, how did you do 30 years?

Man, everybody asks me that.

I know it's a long time, brother, but, um, a very long time, but when you're actually doing it, which you would probably know, when you're doing the time you're not looking at it that way.

You're just living day by day by day.

And as those days accumulate, that's when you realize, man, I've been down this long, this long, and this long.

And when I finally hit 25 years, I was like, "Fuck, man, I've been down a minute." You know? Dudes doing, get 25 to life, you know? And I'm still here.

They're not even trying to fucking give me no kind of action, you know? And then, uh, you know, I talked to a few camaradas that, you know, my cellies...

... what have, what have you done with your life after 30 years?