Was that after orthodoxy or had you already started thinking about that as a possibility?

Pre-Orthodox, but not knowing that it was demons, right? So there's a big push now in military circles for psychedelic therapy.

I've noticed.

And, you know, I was at the end of my rope.

I was like, I can't function like a normal person.

And it was being pushed on me of all things by, you know, dudes that I had served with.

They're like, hey, you need to go down to Mexico.

Can you sort of recount that really quick? Because a lot of people watch these shows, many are Orthodox, some are inquirers, some still have sort of hang-ups on like the talk of demons you know there's this meme like everything i don't like is a demon but having seen something like this happen i believe it was in your own kitchen the story's wild could you recount that really quick