Do you think that's a fair strategy?

I would try it.

If he's been somewhere three days in a row, and I say, what's the chances he's there in the fourth day? It's reasonable.

I'd give it a whirl.

I'd give it a whirl at least one time.

And then if you're like, hey, I gave it a whirl one time, go back the next day and try the next play.

You know, chess, thinking these levels ahead.

sleeping in?

I don't

know, 20 minutes.

And all of a sudden he was at 15 yards and I got him.

So I would just say, You know, clearly food, clearly close to bedding, the deer not traveling far.

So you could overlay that to any example across the country.

They're bedding around here.

I can get this close, fill in the blank, without bumping them, get at this spot without bumping them.

just gotta get creative ahead of time or like be prepared for it I guess

Mm-hmm.

I'm looking and I'm saying, "That buck is a stud.

Next year or two years from now, please be safe," you know? And I'm thinking through, and this season comes and goes so fast, like, you know? And, like, it might get to the very end of the season too, and a buck that I might have, you know, I'll be like, "Yeah, he probably needs to...

Well, I'm on the fence about him." And then if I'm on the fence about him, like, you know, I wasn't quite sure on the age or I wasn't quite sure, uh, if I wanted to shoot him, and then all of a sudden it gets to be, like, late December or January, I'm like, "He, uh, he made it.

He went, he got through all the bow se- bow, the gun season." Then I'm like, "Ah, a f- a buck maybe I would've been on the fence on, like, early on be like if he, if he made it."

It gets easier at that point.

Yeah, it gets easier.

And, and, and something I'd be like, "I would wanna shoot him," maybe as three months goes on and then I see him three months later and I didn't get an opportunity, sometimes I will change my mind and be like, "You know, he has made it, so let's just let him go." And my son did that last year with, um, a six or a seven-year-old buck.

Do you think it's social media, the internet, YouTube, information technology, or legislation?

Let m- let me make this a sync.

Poor regulations not based in science and biology are what's ruining hunting.

Poor regulations come about because of money, because of social media, because of ignorance in the public, because, well, if the public wants it, then they should get it, and it supersedes biology and science.

Like, the voters voted 51% for this, but it's completely against bi- biology, science, ecology, and what's best for the resource.

So, and that can be influenced by money.

Uh, special in- in- int- uh, special interests can influence regulations because of money.

They're doing the work for you, yeah.

People-

And I'll, that's a good thing.

You know, deer hunters, one problem we have is every deer hunter knows it all.

We're all deer hunting experts.

Everybody's a deer hunting expert.

"Don't tell...

You're wrong.

Skip, closing thoughts?

What's your story? Like how many farms did you, not flip, but like buy, sell, improve, hunt it, enjoy it, and then move on to the next one to get where you're at now? And why would you stop me from calling it my legacy farm maybe and like, hey, think long term, right? Yep.

Uh, I probably, I started at 21, I'm 47.

So, um, and you know, I had saved since I was 10 or 12 years old for a land cause we were poor and my uncle died and sold his little, little piece of woods and I couldn't go there.

So I knew I wanted land since I was 10 or 12 years old and I literally took my lawnmowing money and saved for it.

So 21, I bought, you know, graduated.

I had 40 grand for down payment and I bought a farm, 80 acres for $115,000, put 40 grand down.

Well, that was my legacy farm.

But if you go... three to five hundred miles north into Alberta or Ontario and the big woods region of Canada why are people killing giants up there with more predators more woods but yet down here we can't seem to figure it out take it away

Yeah

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RD, both those people better earn your votes.

Um, you know, that's why I was actually very glad to see Feenstra lose when he didn't show up, and most of the people didn't know who he was, and meeting the people at the Capitol who are his, I guess, not...

Well, he was at the federal level, but most of the people in his own party not even liking him or supporting him.

You know, you have to earn the vote.

You have to show up.

It's just, it, that's not a foundation you wanna build on.

horrible,

hard hunting season.

And I've hunted like the public where you're like, I went a week and I saw about 100 guys and I saw no deer.

So I've seen the absolute worst of the worst.

And then starting out the very bottom, you know, at a very young age, I started saving for land.

Like literally, it's crazy, but like 10, 11 years old with my lawn jobs and I take $20 to Edward D. Jones and buy land.

a piece of land and i just kept getting a little bigger a little bigger a little bigger but along the way i had these little farms which is so many so many stories in the past of crazy neighboring stuff and i mean you name the topic i've dealt with it um and now um you know i actually do have both i have a farm that i have i would say very little neighboring issues with very little.

One, would that help habitat in Iowa if we had a ranching for wildlife program? And number two, how would it affect the hunting in Iowa better or worse?

I don't know if you...

Well, I saw that comment, too.

And I saw the heat back on that.

And I went, well, you guys, I mean, they did.

Some folks didn't like that.

Like people from Michigan, like that's offensive.

The three and a half year olds are really hard to kill in Michigan.

You have to live with it.

And then at least you have a direct line to them, you know, and we make sure when they're over at our house, say, you know, before you make any decisions on this stuff, make sure you talk to somebody that from the Iowa Sportsman or something, because people are gonna come to you with all kinds of different stuff, you know, and offer the money and hey, this is what's great for the state, but they're not the ones that are looking out for the hunters in the state.

So in the past four years, maybe five, Farm Bureau has lost every single bill that they've wanted to get.

They are probably 0 for 30.

Prior to five years ago, they were getting a lot of what they wanted.

And since the hunters got organized, since you guys showed up, since you guys got involved, we've defeated Farm Bureau every single time.

And when I get to have public debates with Farm Bureau, I love letting them talk because they don't know what they're talking about.

Well, we just need to kill more deer.

And do you know why?