So tell me about Martini.

Yeah, well, she was a...

Not Thoroughbred, but as close as you could get to Thoroughbred, but coming out of the stock camp.

You've got to remember, to breed the Turlings horses, we started off with a beautiful lot of station horses.

The first stallion we had was called Worksop and he was a thoroughbred horse and bred from all the horses.

Some of them would have a bit of draught, a bit of pony, a bit of everything.

And then of course we came along and got two or three good mares like Quiver was one mare.

Okay, sorry.

keep it still.

Now don't keep it still, let it work backwards and forwards.

And it's a natural, I mean...

Life on the land is so amazing.

I feel very sorry for all these people.

They live in this place here, and I live in a beautiful part of Sydney, but every time I get in the car here, I drive past thousands and thousands of houses all side by side.

They have a front and a back and no garden.

Yeah.

Without our own horses?

No, without our own umpire.

The horses, it doesn't matter.

But the umpire gives them a capacity to play with the rules.

And that's very difficult to beat.

Once the whistle goes, whatever the umpire decides is what's going to happen.

So I said, I'm not going to New Zealand.

I'm glad that I found that out.