And it feels like that when you're watching these people.

Well, yeah.

I mean, yeah, you can't laugh at their expense.

And, you know, I found ways to do that so that they would invite you in to laugh with them.

You know, the obvious things are-

Can you give me an example of that, Simon?

I remember Kaya, he had Tourette's, and so moved, I moved, like, uh, you asked during the interview earlier, saying, you know, "Sometimes things come out of my mouth," and I laugh at them.

I find them funny.