What would you say is different about this one?

What's significant about COP30 is it's a culmination of the three COPs that have gone before it.

Certainly during my tenure, if we look at what was achieved at COP27 with loss and damage, that was a breakthrough.

Again, after 30 years of sometimes quite acrimonious debate to come out with a significant outcome such as that.

building on that at COP28 with the global stock take, which was an opportunity to really look at where we are within the process, that opportunity to reflect, look at what's working, look at what's not working, but set out a pathway forward and the course correction that we spoke of in Dubai.

And coming out of Dubai, we talked about history being made.

I think history can be made adding, so COP28 to 29 and 30.

How do you manage to bring both of those two things together?

And we're now going to hear, if he's willing, the man with famously the most difficult job on the planet, the Executive Secretary of the UNFCCC, Simon Stiell.

Thank you, Tom.

And it's great to be here this afternoon.

So, friends, people often ask me what needs to happen from here.

In truth, many things.

But let me boil it down.

This new era of climate action must be about bringing our process closer to the real economy.

believe in the science?

But we know that in terms of the community that believes in, endorses, underpins that science is far, far more significant than those few voices that challenge the science.

And the science has actually been weaponized.

And again, that is reflective of the politics.

The other thing that hasn't changed are the opportunities, which are glaring, which cannot be ignored.

So I think one of the priorities for us going into this new geopolitical era is I think those of us inside the climate bubble have to re-look at the narrative, have to speak to not just the negatives, not just to speak of the problems which are real, but it is also to highlight the opportunities and to speak in a language that resonates with the hearts and minds of ordinary people all over the world and speaks to the issues that matter most.

And if we look at last year's political cycle, speaking to people's pockets and how this impacts them, is an important tenant that I think those of us in the climate bubble have ignored.

Are there plans in terms of linking up these two big multilateral occasions and linking in the ocean agenda with the climate agenda more closely as we look towards Belém and Brazil?