You can do all the preparation

in the world, but when reality hits, you just got to deal with with what comes as an association.

You know, as you know, I work in Colorado as well.

We really do come with a culture of community and an evolving community means you got to do events, you got to create resources and you have to provide that value to those that are paying for their membership.

So we're getting towards the end of the year.

We're in month 10.

But leading up until the new year, just in Oregon, we have a holiday party coming up in December.

I find that as a vendor also, the same thing.

Tell us a little bit, first of all, about yourself.

Absolutely.

So I appreciate you having me on this podcast again.

The last time you heard from me, we were at the Oregon Association meeting.

So if you haven't figured it out, we manage state associations and really focus our attention to Colorado and Oregon, which are the two states we manage.

But outside of that, just as a quick plug.

There are a lot of states that don't necessarily have associations and they're always looking for resources.

Talk a little bit about that because this hall