So tell me, first of all, if you will, what kind of Heathcote you came back to when you came back from your travels, how it sort of struck you, and then we'll look at how the region works from a grape growing point of view.

Okay, that's a good question.

It was a region I struggled with a bit, to be honest.

Ed.

So I kind of thought I had a pretty good grasp on, you know, the Clear Valley and Western Australia and vintage around that time in the Northern Rhone.

And I sort of came back to Heathcote and I really struggled to understand what the nature or character of Heathcote wine was.

You know, I think I had a good grasp on what our wine was and our own vineyard and the history with it.

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