In this episode, Pastor Simon Longfield, speaking at our church rally in 2026, describes what it is like to have the hope within.

Many years ago I was sitting in my office in Pentridge in G Division, psychiatric ward of the main prison here in Victoria and that prison at the time housed over a thousand men and Just sitting there, trying to keep out of trouble, hoping not to do anything too much that day.

And I got a call, and it was from the governor of the central prison.

And he said, look, I want you to go down and see someone.

This guy was incarcerated, of course, in Pentridge, and he was in the maximum security division called JICA-JICA.

And Jika Jika, at the time, it was pretty freshly minted.

It was the most, I guess, high-level maximum security prison in the Southern Hemisphere.

about the future.