Like it must be, there must be some moments where you must be like, be able to just to see what you've really accomplished.

You have to force yourself to do so a lot of the time.

You have to really consciously take that moment to go, well, this is awesome.

And even in those moments, because as you would know from being in a band and as anybody who has ever been in a band will tell you, The way it feels inside compared to how everything is displayed on the outside is normally totally different.

Even if everything looks like it's going amazing on the outside, there's still a million things internally that aren't going right.

Why hasn't this happened? Why haven't we got that? Why has this not done what we thought it would? There's so many things that it's easy to get hung up on if you actually just take a minute and force yourself to go, but actually...

look at this we're doing this this is insane you know we never would have dreamed we could be here doing this and doing this with this you know so yeah you do have those moments but most of the time you have to tell yourself to remember and appreciate them but sometimes they come really organically like I remember recently when we were in LA and we're shooting this video with Nickelback and you know i'm looking at bobby and he's chatting to chad and like that you just sit there and you go what the fuck has happened here this is sick yeah it's just it's you can't help but feel like wow like what what a hand life has dealt me that i'm able to be in this position doing this even if all this other stuff's not going right and things aren't doing you know what we thought they might hear in here it's like i'm in los angeles i'm hanging out with yeah one of the biggest bands on the planet that i loved growing up and i'm making a music video with them while my mates are sitting in offices grinding yeah something they don't even like doing you know so

So were you just like, let's do what we want to do and just see if it works?