But why do you think financial firms like investment firms like Forsyth Barr have, um, started to hire people like you and started to develop teams that are s- are talking to this issue? Why, why do you think that is?

Well, perhap- perhaps there is more demand from it, uh, for it, sorry, from, from clients.

Uh, that's the first thing.

I don't think that financial, uh, advisors, uh, want to avoid the topic because they're worried that money will leave them.

I mean, distributions from people's accounts are really regular.

You know, people, uh, ask for money for, um, the support to buy a new house, or they might be paying for the grandchildren's education.

Um, there's all kinds of reasons people draw money from the account.

Of course, generosity, giving, you know, living a world worth, living in a world worth living in, helping your community, that's gonna be part of the conversation, right? So it should be part of a financial conversation.

We're gonna dive into it, but why do you think financial firms like investment firms like Forsyth Barr have, um, started to hire people like you and started to develop teams that are s- are talking to this issue? Why, why do you think that is?

Well, perhap- perhaps there is more demand from it, uh, for it, sorry, from, from clients.

Uh, that's the first thing.

I don't think that financial, uh, advisors, uh, want to avoid the topic because they're worried that money will leave them.

I mean, distributions from people's accounts are really regular.

You know, people, uh, ask for money for, um, the support to buy a new house, or they might be paying for the grandchildren's education.

Um, there's all kinds of reasons people draw money from the account.

Of course, generosity, giving, you know, living in a world worth, living in a world worth living in, helping your community, that's gonna be part of the conversation, right? So it should be part of a financial conversation.