you?

The one word that, there's two words that are

coming up and they're from different sides of the way that I was raised and the way I went into it.

There's, I was raised really, I grew up on the beach by like the spirit, my parents, my dad, Hashem, my mom, my dad, and the surf in this completely secular beach culture where I was the only Orthodox Jewish family within like a five mile radius more.

And so every Shabbat, when I would walk down, I was acutely aware of how different I looked to everyone else.

And I hated it.

I hated it.

What is that like for you to even hear me share that?

But I don't fully feel that yet.

Okay.

Yeah, I think that's a good place to start because we could talk about the practical things in a few moments.

And I also just want to say now that I'm on here, I'm like, this is like a conversation with Hashem.

I just want to state that.

And we could be here for hours, me and you.

Every time.

beautiful.

Mm

... people that have siblings that are, that they know are living with, with an addict, and that sibling has not said anything about it is, the more love and safety you can create with that sibling, and saying, I...

And show them that you love them unconditionally, that is a tip that I would say is huge.

Because if I start to say things to Chaya about her husband, and she's-

Yeah.

But the point is, I underestimated you in that moment, and just watching you, like, just build a girl boss business, like, get remarried and rebuild and share this beautiful family.

I've met Arie a handful of times.

Like, hold a blended family, start a podcast, interview people to help other people.

this is...

I'm going to say this to the very beginning stages of...

I'm going to say to a woman who loses a husband, but maybe anyone grieving is... it's so lonely and terrifying and scary that I would encourage the group around them, the family, the people that love them to not leave them alone, to not leave them alone.

Even if they say, I want to be alone, which means if they say, I want to be alone, leave them alone in their bedroom, but they should know that maybe there's someone downstairs in the living room.

Like, And I'm obviously to be very sensitive about it because they may say, I want to be alone or I need to be alone.

So there's going to just sort of like navigate that.

But I had my close family and friends around me all the time.

heck you