Mm-hmm.

There are so many different ways of construing the boundaries between disciplines.

That's part of the, the ragged edge.

The micro, the meso, the, the mid-scale, where we're at, and the macro scale.

He handled the, the micro scale.

His research is fundamentally about looking at different types of disorder or aperiodicity, as they call it, in molecular structure, and learning how to kind of leverage that aperiodicity, how to sort of intervene, not control, but firstly understand and intervene, the potential for creating a whole new class of super materials, anything from flexible transparent metal or being able to store the entire contents of the internet in something the size of a grain of salt in the electron diffraction patterns around the atomic nuclei.

You know, there, there's a lot of, um, holy grails there which, uh, industry and government is willing to chuck a lot of money at.

Yeah.