So as you start approaching this 18 mark and as you're talking about when you accepted this about yourself, was there a particular moment when you were 18 that all the feelings sort of came crashing down or was it a gradual process somewhere in that 18 time frame?

yeah so this is where it gets interesting because you know at that point when i was 17 18 years old i had worked so much on myself that i was very comfortable with myself i knew what i stood for knew what my moral complex were i knew a bunch of things about myself and there was a very big difference between how i looked and my capabilities versus the other people Because if a 17 year old guy can fucking bench press 140 kilo and deadlift 260 or whatever the fuck at that point.

Well, my presence, my physical presence, it meant a lot because who was going to disagree with me when I said, this is me, right? So this will, everything will tie together once we progress on the story.

So I was searching, I always have had the quest for truth.

I was searching a lot through what humans were, why humans did what they did, what their behaviors were, because I wanted really to understand humans, especially when I was 18.

I think that drive came from, I learned copywriting when I was 16 and I did some clients, that sort of thing in that teenage period.

And when you're doing copywriting, you really got to pay attention to what your audience needs are and really understand your audience better than they understand themselves.

Or were there other stories like your other friend who was homophobic, but sort of had this unexpected reaction in a positive way? If there's any short stories that you're comfortable sharing about that coming out process, once you would really accepted this part of you.