But I feel like Rob might be the inception point for...

He definitely is.

So I've pretty much got to thank my whole career so far to Rob Letera.

So before I started acting or pursuing this as a career, I was running a cafe in Fitzroy on Brunswick Street called Blonde.

And it just so happened to be where yourself and Adrian and Rob and even Larry sometimes would come in for meetings and coffees.

And yeah, and I'd been running it for a few years and then you guys happened to start coming in.

And...

And you brought in Time is a Tired Horse.