So what made you want to change out of journalism?

Yeah, I think it was actually less that I wanted to leave journalism and more that I I was at Haaretz for 13 years, which now that I've been in the high-tech world for a while, it's crazy when you say a number like that.

People look at you like you have three heads.

Because staying at the same company for five years is considered, wow, you've been here a while, right? Wow, you're a veteran.

Staying anywhere for 13 years...

I don't know.

That doesn't happen in tech.

So going back to real estate high tech, what happened then? After that or during that?

I never thought about reaching out practically, which is great.

Yeah.

You know, it actually started before I got into journalism.

I was considering becoming a lawyer.

And I was pretty sure I wanted to be a journalist and not a lawyer.

But I thought, you know, before you like go to law school and then you're like committed and, you know, then you have debt and, you know, whatever.

I said, let me actually work as a paralegal, which is not so common in Israel.

for sure And tell us a little bit about on the job kind of challenging moments you had with, you know, biases or whatever that you had to face if you're willing to share something and enlighten us.