and we're here talking with those two journalists today to hear what they learned after spending a year inside the world of brutus buckeye sheridan hendrix is the higher education reporter for the columbus dispatch welcome to the show sheridan thanks so much and adam karens is a photojournalist with the columbus dispatch welcome to the show adam good morning all right before we talk about the book i want to start with how this entire thing came about sheridan whose idea was it to profile a mascot so intently Yeah,

so it was my idea, but Adam came in almost immediately.

Adam and I were actually together when the idea came about.

We were covering the OSU Tennessee game on the road to the national championship.

And it was the first game held in December at the SHU.

So Adam and I got the awesome assignment of waking up super early on a frigid morning to go tailgating to see who was out tailgating first thing in the morning.

So we were over at college game day.

Sheridan, what did you learn about women who have taken the role and their place in history?