Oh, my

gosh.

A little backstory on that.

So.

My buddy, Daniel, who owns Relief, who owns our skate shop, who I've known forever.

Yeah, forever.

God, I can't remember.

Well,

Yeah.

Right? So it's so hard for me just as if I were to go out to, to, um, to eat with you and you order a glass of wine, and you leave like half the glass of wine on the table.

In my head, I'm like, "Why would you do that?" I can't wrap my head around that.

It seems so crazy to me.

You know, I was the type of guy that would finish my drink plus everybody else that left their half drink.

I didn't care what it was, you know? So I think the best way to probably explain it is in my heart of hearts, if you're truly an addict, if you truly struggle with substance abuse, um, what I believe happens is your brain gets hijacked by the drugs.

Mm-hmm

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