Mm.

Look, we all know what happened.

There's been lots of things, lots of politicians have had, uh, misdemeanors.

I hope that when their obituaries are written, they're not described as disgraced politicians.

Um, I actually did him a disservice.

I, I, when he, the, the last auction he did for me, he was utterly brilliant.

It was for, uh, a literacy charity in South Africa, and it was in, in a temple hall in London.

But without doubt, I'm just looking at my screens here, uh, everybody says Kane and Abel, one of the greatest books ever written.