will have been out for a week by the time we're doing this.

So at the very end of the movie, after the big fight has taken place and Bison has escaped and he's on the run.

And now Ryu and Ken and Chun-Li are hitchhiking on the side of the road.

And then a car pulls up and it's Guile and Dhalsim.

And they're like, hey, do you want to come? We're going bison hunting or whatever.

Sure.

Sure.

Is that your number one favorite fight sequence in the history of cinema?

They want to, you know, they might be leveling up there, maybe with some tools they need, or some movies or books that they might need there.

All right.

If we're doing an eighth grade English class, we want to open their little tiny brains up a little bit, but not too, too much.

So I might, I think what I might do is I might, I might recommend some pop culture-y kind of books because mostly when you're in school, they're making you read books that as a kid, you don't really have a ton of interest in, right? Like, why do I want to read whatever, The Giver.

They make every kid read The Giver.

They make every kid read Native Son.

There's a list of them.

And when we talk about expensive basketball and how she has become who she is now.

Yeah.

That's a, that's a r- I had never considered that part, Lindsay, and I'm going through all of the times I- he meets somebody, and what does he do when he meets them.

'Cause you th- like, the first one I think of, the, I mean, the braces one is, that's such a, like, clear example.

But it, even the first time he meets Carl, he looks at him and, and you s- like, I'm picturing the scene in my head now, and you literally see him, like, almost like a computer, like, scan him and go, "Okay, here's gonna be my attack based on just only what this guy looks like and the way that he's moving, and he's a little bit fidgety, and he's got on glasses, and he's with the FBI Check Fraud Department, so I could probably just overpower him.

I'm just gonna overpower him."

"He was just sitting in a jump seat." You know? Like, he flew a million miles on TWA, who cares? I'm not mad about it.

[laughs] When, uh, when I first started teaching, so this was 2007-ish, that was my first year.

2007, 2008 was my first school year teaching, I believe.

And you know what I mean? These things would be, it would blow my mind is my point, but I'll let Shay talk about it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's pretty, pretty close to the reason that I wanted to do this one.

When, when Joel reached out, all of the very best TV shows are the very best TV shows because of the relationships that they are able to make you care about.

Like Peggy and Don and Madman, Jim and Pam in the office, Avon and Stringer in the wire, uh, Arabella, and pretty much anyone on I May Destroy You.

Because that thing, that interpersonal connection with someone else is not only something that we sort of understand implicitly, but also it's something that we all want and need and pursue.

Yeah,

now...

I was a middle school teacher in Houston for nine years.

And then while I was doing that, I started freelancing on the side, just trying to make some extra money.

And then, you know, a couple of things broke in my favor.

I ended up writing a book.

That book made the bestseller list.

And then it got turned into a TV show.

and

Yeah

... like that.

Like, you say something like that and you go like, "Oh, okay, he just sort of is gonna do what he wants to do how he wants to do it." And then he talks about it afterward of like explaining the way he uses those emotions to like catalyze everything he's doing on the basketball court.

I don't, I, I don't get the, I don't get any sort of criticism anybody could lobby at him of he was too excited to win a Game 7 on the road against the defending champs in his first playoff run, to send his team to the finals for the first time in 12 year.

What are you talking about he's too excited?

Shea, how are you feeling going into the finals, and is there any worry there the emotional toll that series took on San Antonio?

No, I'm not worried about the emotional toll of it because we watched them do it all through the season.

This isn't, like, a new thing where they were...

Yeah

... like that.

Like, you say something like that and you go like, "Oh, okay, he just sort of is gonna do what he wants to do how he wants to do it." And then he talks about it afterward of, like, explaining the way he uses those emotions to, like, catalyze everything he's doing on the basketball court.

I don't, I, I don't get the...

I don't get any sort of criticism anybody could lobby at him of-He was too excited to win a game seven on the road against the defending champs in his first playoff run, to send his team to the finals for the first time in 12 year- What are you talking about he's too excited?

[rock music]Shay, how are you feeling going into the finals and is there any worry there the emotional toll that series took on San Antonio?

No, I'm not worried about the emotional toll of it because we watched them do it all through the season.

This isn't, like, a new thing where they were ...

Mm-hmm

... team in the league.

We have the clutchest player, and I think we have the smartest coach in the league.

Everything was go- everything was going wrong.

We're up big.

This is an easy game.

Don't worry about it.

So Shay, what is your favorite part of this early Aces season so far?

I mean, what, do you remember what those were?

Yeah, I remember, I remembered all of them.

I've mentioned when we were driving home from this game, the c- the clock you're, you're, you're referencing is this, like, uh, digital, like, uh, just a, one of those ones that's lit up in lights, and it's at the Security Service bank off of Highway 90 in San Antonio, and we had, we'd have to drive past that to get home.

And I told him when we were driving home, we live on the other side of town now, but I was like, "Dad, let's drive past Security Service," so I could see the, the, the clock.

I know exactly what you're talking about.

But, so the one, the one, the one that stands out the most to me is we were at a Spurs game.

This is, this is, uh, Hemisphere Arena, so we're in SBC Center now or, or AT&T Center, whatever you wanna call it.

San Antonio is crazy.

How can expensive basketball shoehorn its way into first take to finally settle once and for all the Jordan versus LeBron conversation?

Well, I think that's why it's interesting, because it can't, is the thing.

When you're talking about expensive, it's just sort of a synonym for something that made you feel something.

I noticed that you have soccer stuff behind you, right? I'm not a soccer guy.

I don't know anything about soccer, but... 2006 rolls around or whatever.

I remember watching the World Cup around that period, whatever it was, 2006, 2008.

I remember watching it and seeing Italy, the team that plays for Italy.

Talk to us a little bit about Duncan.

I was just kind of curious how you landed on the people and the players that you wrote about.

Okay, so once I figured out what the... book was going to be right.

Which is essentially, I'm going to write about a bunch of different players, moments, shots, stretches of seasons or whatever that, that were like important in basketball because they made me feel something or they made everybody feel something right.

Like, like the Vince Carter's performance at the 2000 dunk contest.

Like we all get excited about that.

They just did a whole, like a whole, like pregame post game dunk show.

around it before, like it was a moment, right? Yeah.

I was just going to say, maybe I'm

Hurry into your local Sleep Number store today because we have your number.

Okay, so once I figured out what the book was going to be, which is essentially I'm going to write about a bunch of different players, moments, shots, stretches of seasons or whatever that were important in basketball because they made me feel something or they made everybody feel something.

Like Vince Carter's performance at the 2000 Thumb Contest.

We all get excited about that.

They just did a whole... a whole pre-game, post-game dunk show around it.

It was a moment, right? Yeah.

You're trying to find those things.

I was just going to say maybe I'm

It is.

Right? But there's a part in it early on where it, the first time we meet her, she's a little girl, the little girl version of her. And she walks up to the boys, they're all playing as three boys. And she's like, "Hey, can I play?" She's got a hat on. And they're like, "Oh yeah, sure." And she takes the hat off. "Oh my God, it's a girl." Whatever. Becomes this whole thing. They're like talking shit about her. And then immediately, immediately she fucking starts putting them in the blender, just bucket after bucket after bucket. And then she's going up for one bucket. Quincy has gotten fed up. He shoves her in the back. She falls to the ground. Her face drags on the floor. She picks it up, it's covered in blood. And then we cut to her in the house, cleaning it, and she's fucking smiling. And I'm like, "Hell yeah."

No, start from the beginning of Escape. Yeah.

They have a basketball court with guys with guns all al- all around it. They've captured Snake, they have him in the basketball court. The guy in charge, some whatever, bad guy, tells him, "Hey, you gotta score 10 points. I'm gonna put 10 seconds on the shot clock. You get the ball at half court. Every time you score, the clock resets itself. And if you don't score 10 points before the clock resets itself, or if you miss a shot, we're gonna shoot you and you're gonna die." So the first one, he makes a layup, easy. But he bobbles it a little bit, so he doesn't get all the way down. So the second shot he has to shoot is like a 15-footer. Now he's gotta shoot a three-pointer. And then his last two shots he has to shoot from half court, fucking drills it, and then full court, with his life on the line-