Mm.

So they weren't doing the training for the food.

They were doing it because it's fun.

We made it fun, we made it enjoyable, we're playing the game, you know, we're raising the criteria, we got big things done, and it kind of needs to be the same way with our horses.

So we practice ourselves to be sure that it is fun and light, but yet we can get big things done.

There was a, a person who was a professional and said he was being, m- m- he was making fun of somebody for using positive reinforcement, and then he came to a demo, then he started doing it, and they started making fun of him.

And he said, "You know what? I feel like I'm 12 years old again, yet I'm getting serious stuff done." So I think when we start using the positive reinforcement, we start being more in the moment with our horses, and we, the, we, it lets the rest of the world melt away.

Yeah