you know, along the way, but yeah, we just kind of want to hear your story as how you became a trapper.

My mom and dad, uh, I'm the product of a high school romance and they are still married for over 60 years.

And daddy was trying to make ends meet.

And that was back during the beginning of the fur boom.

And he had went and bought a, bunch of one and a half victor traps uh i say a bunch he might have got a dozen that's probably all he could afford well around 1973 74 because i was born in 66 i'm 60 years old now uh i found those traps and i i was curious and i i was asking daddy about them and all that well right about that time in the state of florida footholds got outlawed and my father actually had a part in that.

In our part of the country, running hounds, running deer with hounds, fox field trials and all that is big stuff.

I mean, you know about the live market and all that.

So Sean, you might explain the reason you don't wax and dye.