So how do you think that you helped your own children to develop those resilient mindsets? Do you think it's just because you led with such a beautiful example that they adopted it? Or I'd love to understand if you chose to do things in a different

way.

Beautiful example? No.

I think if you speak to my three grown-up children, I cringe when they remind me of some of the things I said, which I don't remember.

Were you a tiger mom? No.

Okay.

My husband and I, we decided very early on that we would be aligned, no matter what, one voice first.

Can women have it all? Yeah.