Talk to me about that first.

Yeah.

This is one that whenever I hear people say that or, or even I've heard people talking about fourth-grade girls and calling them all these sorts of awful names, we really have to take a look at how we are talking about girl drama.

And because it's not evil masterminds.

These aren't girls who are sitting in their rooms at night thinking, "How can I make her life miserable?" It's girls who are desperate to create connection, and they don't know how sometimes.

Mm.

And a lot of girls have, before they get social media, they have group chats.

A group chat is, like, magnified- Of the whole peer-to-peer relationships.

Why don't we start by you sharing a bit about your background and what led you to focus on helping teen girls navigate friendships and social challenges?

Oh, there's so much.

I will give you the short version.

I started, um, in the, the field of psychology, like, 30 years ago in the neuropsychology, psychometry realm.

And, you know, our paths always take these windy roads to where we are now.

And at some point, I was working for the Women's Sports Foundation with a curriculum that was all about empowering teen girls.

And so when that ran out, I was like, "This is my passion, what I really wanna focus on." When I started, you know, getting into the field and seeing what exactly I wanted to focus on, I noticed there was a lot for kind of crisis mode.

So what are a few examples of that?